and joe biden at his best is genuine. joe biden blame it on too thick. >> we were discussing earlier the stories paul ryan was telling, not really a strong suit of the personal stories here they are happening often. the afghanistan question about the reservists. the delay that on to pick when he was trying to get into the personal stories? >> again, we are all responding with her own impressions, but to me that felt very political, very contrived. insert personal anecdote here. i suppose it's a matter of taste. >> which it was st. thomas one of those things where washington perspective might not necessarily match what people will take away from the debate. >> i think people in peoria can recognize a talking point. >> 95% of the debate was a clearly rehearsed talking point. all the questions he got were predictable and the answers were practice. >> jim, the lightness. even here >> guest: back-and-forth on this question. >> the one thing i want to add on this as i think this is a missed opportunity in some respects with the